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	<title>Comments on: Nigerian Classifieds : competition or content theft?</title>
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		<title>By: Yinka</title>
		<link>http://www.kayodemuyibi.com/nigerian-classifieds-competition-or-content-theft/#comment-36260</link>
		<dc:creator>Yinka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I admire what seun is doing with both nairaland and nairalist, but sometimes seun baffles me with his comments which shows he&#039;s a little scared of competition. Talking of stealing contents i think that is a baseless acusation, remember there are countless softwares for building different types of websites, for example, if i built a forum site with the same software that seun used in building nairaland, would you accuse me of stealing his content? Simply bcos i share same site interface and layouts with nairaland? Seun, instead of getting personal with issues like this, i believe you should channel your energy more on how to grow further, and this type of environment will make you grow...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admire what seun is doing with both nairaland and nairalist, but sometimes seun baffles me with his comments which shows he&#8217;s a little scared of competition. Talking of stealing contents i think that is a baseless acusation, remember there are countless softwares for building different types of websites, for example, if i built a forum site with the same software that seun used in building nairaland, would you accuse me of stealing his content? Simply bcos i share same site interface and layouts with nairaland? Seun, instead of getting personal with issues like this, i believe you should channel your energy more on how to grow further, and this type of environment will make you grow&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
		<link>http://www.kayodemuyibi.com/nigerian-classifieds-competition-or-content-theft/#comment-32120</link>
		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It can be argued that by default Nairalist.com owns the content, we can go on and on about &quot;by default&quot;.

Aggregation sites link back to the original site or give credit, this is THEFT, call it what you like.

The bottom line is this, this individual set up his site with the intention of passing off as Nairalist.com or associating with Nairalist.com.

If he had set up Nairalists.com and sought his own advertisers then there will be no passing off as Nairalist.com is still new.

I don&#039;t mind competition, in fact we need it on the web in Nigeria, but this is wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It can be argued that by default Nairalist.com owns the content, we can go on and on about &#8220;by default&#8221;.</p>
<p>Aggregation sites link back to the original site or give credit, this is THEFT, call it what you like.</p>
<p>The bottom line is this, this individual set up his site with the intention of passing off as Nairalist.com or associating with Nairalist.com.</p>
<p>If he had set up Nairalists.com and sought his own advertisers then there will be no passing off as Nairalist.com is still new.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind competition, in fact we need it on the web in Nigeria, but this is wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: kayode muyibi</title>
		<link>http://www.kayodemuyibi.com/nigerian-classifieds-competition-or-content-theft/#comment-32119</link>
		<dc:creator>kayode muyibi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You still cast a blind eye on my point. The nature of the content is important.

Your idea of content theft could be argued as aggregation of content, just like news sites, and job sites do.

My blog has my personal written work and they are protected by default and the intent of my publication cannot be confused to one of a classified advertisement website which just publishes submitted advertisements without any written terms etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You still cast a blind eye on my point. The nature of the content is important.</p>
<p>Your idea of content theft could be argued as aggregation of content, just like news sites, and job sites do.</p>
<p>My blog has my personal written work and they are protected by default and the intent of my publication cannot be confused to one of a classified advertisement website which just publishes submitted advertisements without any written terms etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
		<link>http://www.kayodemuyibi.com/nigerian-classifieds-competition-or-content-theft/#comment-32118</link>
		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My bad I meant Nairalist.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My bad I meant Nairalist.com.</p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
		<link>http://www.kayodemuyibi.com/nigerian-classifieds-competition-or-content-theft/#comment-32117</link>
		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right about the fact that the users did not sign any agreement and I think it&#039;s important that the owners of Nairaland.com put an agreement in place so they can defend their website.

The internet is a new one with regards to copyright and trademark but I believe with time, some of these will eventually be implied.

Lets be clear this is not competition, it&#039;s outright content theft, the only problem here is that Nairalist.com can&#039;t scream thief! Only the advertisers can do that.

A dirty trick will be emailing Nairalist.com users using the email addresses on the site, that I can accept but not theft and passing off.

By the way, where is the link to your copyright on your website? I see no reason why I should put your name below &quot;my new blog&quot; :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right about the fact that the users did not sign any agreement and I think it&#8217;s important that the owners of Nairaland.com put an agreement in place so they can defend their website.</p>
<p>The internet is a new one with regards to copyright and trademark but I believe with time, some of these will eventually be implied.</p>
<p>Lets be clear this is not competition, it&#8217;s outright content theft, the only problem here is that Nairalist.com can&#8217;t scream thief! Only the advertisers can do that.</p>
<p>A dirty trick will be emailing Nairalist.com users using the email addresses on the site, that I can accept but not theft and passing off.</p>
<p>By the way, where is the link to your copyright on your website? I see no reason why I should put your name below &#8220;my new blog&#8221; <img src='http://www.kayodemuyibi.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: kayode muyibi</title>
		<link>http://www.kayodemuyibi.com/nigerian-classifieds-competition-or-content-theft/#comment-32116</link>
		<dc:creator>kayode muyibi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kay,
 Thanks for visiting, and where is the terms or copyright protection on Nairalist?


I think you got it all confused. Please do put my raised points into context. I clearly stated that the type and nature of  thecontent is important.

Yes you can republish my blog with my name at the bottom, its acceptable.

 Nairalist does not own the advertisement on the site, its a platform for broadcasting advertisement. The owners of the content, i.e the advertisers, did not sign any agreement on how their  advertisement should be published or how it should be used, rather its presumed that the intent is for public consumption.

If anybody thinks its perhaps a &quot;dirty&quot; approach to competing, I agree, but saying it is wrong without valid points, I don&#039;t agree.

Ethics do have value and societal standard clauses, and when the clauses are not defined, or cannot be defined, there brings about the birth of subjective conclusions and debate, such as what is wrong and what is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kay,<br />
 Thanks for visiting, and where is the terms or copyright protection on Nairalist?</p>
<p>I think you got it all confused. Please do put my raised points into context. I clearly stated that the type and nature of  thecontent is important.</p>
<p>Yes you can republish my blog with my name at the bottom, its acceptable.</p>
<p> Nairalist does not own the advertisement on the site, its a platform for broadcasting advertisement. The owners of the content, i.e the advertisers, did not sign any agreement on how their  advertisement should be published or how it should be used, rather its presumed that the intent is for public consumption.</p>
<p>If anybody thinks its perhaps a &#8220;dirty&#8221; approach to competing, I agree, but saying it is wrong without valid points, I don&#8217;t agree.</p>
<p>Ethics do have value and societal standard clauses, and when the clauses are not defined, or cannot be defined, there brings about the birth of subjective conclusions and debate, such as what is wrong and what is not.</p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
		<link>http://www.kayodemuyibi.com/nigerian-classifieds-competition-or-content-theft/#comment-32115</link>
		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ownership of content will depend on the site terms, on Gumtree and Craigslist it&#039;s stated that the duplication of the content without permission is prohibited i.e. the advert placer assigns these rights when he/she places the advert.

@kazey journal
If Nairalist+s.com was an aggregate site then it will link back to the original content owner and not pass off the advert as theirs.

Let us call a spade a spade, this is wrong. Maybe I should start publishing your blogs as mine and not giving you any credit, will you like that?

If this is not illegal then at best it is immoral.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ownership of content will depend on the site terms, on Gumtree and Craigslist it&#8217;s stated that the duplication of the content without permission is prohibited i.e. the advert placer assigns these rights when he/she places the advert.</p>
<p>@kazey journal<br />
If Nairalist+s.com was an aggregate site then it will link back to the original content owner and not pass off the advert as theirs.</p>
<p>Let us call a spade a spade, this is wrong. Maybe I should start publishing your blogs as mine and not giving you any credit, will you like that?</p>
<p>If this is not illegal then at best it is immoral.</p>
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		<title>By: kayode muyibi</title>
		<link>http://www.kayodemuyibi.com/nigerian-classifieds-competition-or-content-theft/#comment-31982</link>
		<dc:creator>kayode muyibi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Seun Osewa, thanks for visiting, Not everything is personal you know. All the best with Nairalist by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Seun Osewa, thanks for visiting, Not everything is personal you know. All the best with Nairalist by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Seun Osewa</title>
		<link>http://www.kayodemuyibi.com/nigerian-classifieds-competition-or-content-theft/#comment-31966</link>
		<dc:creator>Seun Osewa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Ahmad.  

Ethics is not something that can be taught to an adult.  Either you know the difference between right and wrong, or you don&#039;t. 

Some people just don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Ahmad.  </p>
<p>Ethics is not something that can be taught to an adult.  Either you know the difference between right and wrong, or you don&#8217;t. </p>
<p>Some people just don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: kazey journal</title>
		<link>http://www.kayodemuyibi.com/nigerian-classifieds-competition-or-content-theft/#comment-31841</link>
		<dc:creator>kazey journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ahmad 
I have a few questions for you, why did you create a post on a classified site?

How do you define content theft? Is it When the creator of that content says that his content are for Nairalist.com only?

 or Is it when the creator doesn&#039;t say anything about his content, and creates that particular content with the un-mentioned assumable intent of publicising and a possibility of re-distribution and re-publication due to the nature of the content (classifieds or ads)? 


I really would like to know? This is because the content of Nairalist.com was created with the intent of publication and redistribution and its not an &quot;art work&quot; and only the author of the content created (the ads) can scream &quot;theft&quot;, like you just mentioned. Otherwise, I really don&#039;t see any crime been committed.

I personally wouldn&#039;t mind my classified post been re-published in many sites. That is what many job aggregators do by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ahmad<br />
I have a few questions for you, why did you create a post on a classified site?</p>
<p>How do you define content theft? Is it When the creator of that content says that his content are for Nairalist.com only?</p>
<p> or Is it when the creator doesn&#8217;t say anything about his content, and creates that particular content with the un-mentioned assumable intent of publicising and a possibility of re-distribution and re-publication due to the nature of the content (classifieds or ads)? </p>
<p>I really would like to know? This is because the content of Nairalist.com was created with the intent of publication and redistribution and its not an &#8220;art work&#8221; and only the author of the content created (the ads) can scream &#8220;theft&#8221;, like you just mentioned. Otherwise, I really don&#8217;t see any crime been committed.</p>
<p>I personally wouldn&#8217;t mind my classified post been re-published in many sites. That is what many job aggregators do by the way.</p>
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